Last updated: 10/26/2010, patch 4.0.1
This focus of this page is predominantly on what spells to cast and in which order (when in instances/raids).
• Information on talent builds can be found here.
• Information on gear can be found here and here.
For information on DPSing while soloing or leveling, check out the leveling guide instead.
What is “DPS?” What is “Utility?”
The prominent priest DPS talent builds are shadow-tree focused (31+ talent points); this is for good reason. Shadow talent builds provide solid DPS with fantastic utility.
DPS, or “damage per second,” describes the units in which we measure the damage we dish out to mobs over time. The term “DPS” is also used to describe the act of actively dealing damage.
Utility refers to additional benefits above and beyond the DPS you are providing. A shadowpriest’s major utility strengths are being able to provide strong health regeneration and/or mana regeneration for themselves and their party members as well as some spell haste.
Mastery
Patch 4.0.1 that brought us the talent revamping also brought us Shadow Power for setting the Shadow tree as our primary specialization, which used to be rolled into the old Shadowform talent and was not available until level 40. Now Shadow priests can enjoy the increased spell damage across all their school as well as double damage from Shadow spell criticals. One of the largest introductions of the 4.0.1 was the Mastery system which provided an exclusive ability based on the selected tree. Shadow priests have access to Mastery: Shadow Orbs . Shadow orbs is a stacking buff that increases the damage of your next Mind Blast or Mind Spike by 34% per a stack up to a maximum of 3 stacks. Shadow Orbs have a 10% chance to generate from damage ticks of SW:Pain and Mind Flay, which when generated will orbit around your avatar as well as appear in your buff monitor with the current number of stacks. By finding gear with the Mastery stat on it you can increase the damage modifier by 4.3% per a point of Mastery. Currently it is not known exactly how and when the Mastery point effects are included in the damage increase calculation(or if the Mastery damage modifer if any good currently) so may priests are waiting on seeking out this stat until more information is known about it.
Since this was changed to being a constant self-buff like Inner Fire a while ago, you’ll want to make sure to have Vampiric Embrace (VE) up whenever you have access to it. It will be a nice help to your healers and also give you a steady source of self healing taking a bit of the pressure away from the healers.
Welcome to Spell Juggling 101…
Playing as a shadow priest in a raid or group environment largely depends on keeping your damage over time (DoT) spells up on mobs while minding the cooldowns of some of your direct damage spells. This is called spell juggling.
Your DoT spells are Vampiric Touch (VT) , Devouring Plague (DP) and Shadow Word: Pain (SW:P) .
• VT lasts 15 seconds
• SW:P lasts 15 seconds (Longer with endgame tier gear)
• Devouring Plague lasts 24 second.
Your direct damage spells are Shadow Word: Death (SW:D) , Mind Blast (MB) , and Mind Flay (MF) . Mind Spike will be added with the release of Cataclysm.
• SW:D has a 10 second cooldown but can be instantly reset when glyphed. The glyphed version trigger does have an internal cooldown of 6 seconds
• Mind Blast has a 6.5-8 second cooldown (depending on talents)
• Mind Flay has no cooldown (but is a 3 second channeled spell)
Given the varied lengths of our spells’ cooldowns and up times, shadow priests do not have a “cast sequence” like some of the other DPS casters. What we have is more of a “casting priority,” meaning that when multiple spells are available to us, certain things are more beneficial to cast first.
Generally speaking, our casting priority up to the 4.0.1 changes(the eggheads are still working on the theorycrafting) looks something like this:
VT > SW:Pain > DP > MB or SW:D > MF
Or, in a little more detail:
Starting DPS
To start off, you would likely want to open with:
VT > DP > SW:P > SW:D > MB > MF
Then start juggling as above. You may want to give your tank 1-3 seconds to establish aggro lead depending on their spec and playstyle to avoid peeling off any mobs.
SW:D, since it causes backlash damage to you equal to the damage you deal, has its own caveats. You never want to use it when you are in danger of taking enough damage from other sources to kill yourself after it bumps down your health, or when the backlash damage itself can kill you (unless, of course, you are trying to avoid taking durability loss from an incoming wipe).
Shadow Word: Death is higher DPM (damage per mana) than Mind Blast, meaning it gives gives you a little more bang for your buck. Also, having Mind Blast after SW:D will help heal the backlash damage up quickly. This is why SW:D is prioritized before Mind Blast. If mana and health return are not an issue, Mind Blast does deal more damage than SW:Death and should be given higher priority.
Additionally, as you are causing damage to yourself with Shadow Word: Death, be careful of threat if you have Vampiric Embrace up. A heal over time (HoT) or small heal from another healer is enough to cover the damage, but most healers will quickly become annoyed with having to heal you every 12-15 seconds.
It is very important to understand how your damage over time spells work.
Every three seconds after the spell is cast, it will deal an amount of periodic damage until it expires. That means that right as the spell is expiring, it will be dealing its last tick of damage.
If you refresh your DoTs too early, you will be cutting off that last tick of damage.
If you do it only a fraction of a second too soon, then that is practically 6 full seconds without that DoT having dealt damage. It is better to wait for the spell to have ended before reapplying.
Try to reapply it as close as possible to the end of the expired DoT as you can.
You want to get as close as you can without it going over! (Yes, like the Price is Right…) This is better for both your mana and your DPS.
If you have to reapply a DoT before it is over, try to do so right after it has ticked for damage (3 second mark, 6 second mark, etc.). Use a DoT timer add-on (like Quartz) to know how long your DoT has been up.
Shadowy Apparition DPS Boost
Patch 4.0.1 added the new Shadowy Apparition http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=78204 talent to the Shadow tree that adds a 12% chance on each SW:Pain tick to summon a walking speed homing bomb shadow clone at your current location that will zero in on the mob that triggered it. The damage your Shadowy Apparition deals does scale with your spellpower and they can critical for 50% extra damage. While this may not seem like much the benefit of these clones is in that last line of the tool tip. When you are forced to stop casting and move out of the way of incoming damage or run from a damage source, your chance to create a mindless hollow shell of yourself jumps up to 60% of your DoT tick. This gives shadow priests a nice chance to continue to dish out a fair amount of damage even if on the move. How the apparitions interact with Vampiric Embrace is currently unknown.
Trash and AoE
If you are fighting trash mobs who die quickly and/or are in an “AoE” situation, your casting priorities are completely different.
On trash mobs with low health, you do not have to put up all your DoTs, as the mob(s) will likely be dead before the DoTs come anywhere near doing all their damage. “VT-> MB -> MF until dead” is a good option on trash mobs (add SW:D if needed).
In situations where AoE is needed, you can SW:P every mob you can while tossing out MB and SW:D when they are off cooldown. You will run out of mana quickly casting a lot of SW:P, so be careful about using this method in places where you will need to keep DPSing right after without a break to drink.
In all other AoE situations, Mind Sear should do the trick. Simply spam this spell to quickly and effectively DPS down multiple mobs.
Which spell to use Inner Focus with is debatable. For maximum mana efficiency, use it with Shadow Word: Pain (highest mana cost spell). For maximum damage, use it with Mind Blast (highest damage potential from a crit).
The trick is to use it reliably. Some raid boss battles can go on a long time, easily giving you the chance to use this spell more than once. If you are bad at remembering to use this, then make a macro to attempt to use it whenever you cast your spell of choice.
If you have trinkets that increase your spell damage on use, be sure to use them to their maximum potential! If you cast DoTs with such a trinket activated, then the DoT will receive the benefit for its entire uptime, even when the trinket’s effects wear off you. Your shadowfiend also benefits as well.
If you have trouble remembering to use them, make a macro to use them whenever you cast a DoT.
You can do something as simple as:
/use 13
/cast Shadow Word: Pain
That will try to use the trinket in your top trinket slot before casting Shadow Word: Pain.
The Blessing of Utility
Vampiric Touch is the defining utility spell of shadow priests. If you can keep the spell up 100% of the time, then you will be regenerating 25% of your shadow DPS (not damage, but your DPS) as mp5 for your whole party (example: a priest doing 800 DPS, or “damage per second,” of shadow damage would be giving 200 mp5, or “mana per five seconds,” to his or her party if Vampiric Touch is kept up the whole time). This spell historically was one of the main reason why shadow priests were brought to raids prior to the Dev team’s “bring the player not the class” stance. Keeping this spell up all the time is your #1 priority. Don’t leave home without it.
Vampiric Embrace will regenerate 15% of the shadow damage you deal as health for yourself and passing on 3% of that to your party (depending on your talents). It is quite handy on fights that have high amounts of environmental damage (situations where many people are taking damage). It is also useful if you use Shadow Word: Death a lot. And since it’s been changed to a self buff, you can set it and forget it. Score!
Shadow priests have other utility, such as being able to fear and stun mobs from talents, being able to change form to toss heals (if necessary), and being able to cast Dispel Magic or toss Power Word: Shield (as needed). Crowd control in the form of Shackle Undead or Mind Control could count as utility, too.
The Curse of Threat
Shadow priests get threat from the damage they deal, the healing from VE (if applicable), and the mana regen from VT (if applicable). Even with every threat reduction effect possible, shadow priests can easily out-threat an undergeared or underskilled tank. Priests have no permanent way to shed threat, besides death.
A shadow priest has what is called “backloaded threat.” While your threat may ramp up slowly at first, once you get going, even if you stop casting, you can still be generating threat. Think of your threat generation as a very large truck with bad brakes. It takes a bit of effort to get going, but once you are you are difficult to stop. You need to be able to hit the brakes a good number of seconds before you really need to be stopped.
You live and die by your threat. Install a threat meter (I really cannot recommend the add-on Omen or Skada enough!).
You can drop spells from your casting priority if threat is an issue.
Which order to drop them in while stuck in an encounter?
- Shadow Word: Death should probably be looked at first, since it is causing you to also take damage.
- Drop Devouring Plague, if applicable. Devouring Plague causes healing generating additional threat.
- The next thing on the priority list that you can drop is Mind Blast.
- If you really must, after dropping Mind Blast out of your rotation, you can drop Shadow Word: Pain.
- That leaves you with Vampiric Touch and Mind Flay. You really shouldn’t drop either of those. If you are having threat issues with a tank while only casting those two spells, then you really need to find a different tank.
Increasing Your DPS
First, fix any bad habits:
• Don’t cut of your DoTs when reapplying them.
• Make sure you keep your DoTs up as best your can.
• Don’t cut off the end of Mind Flay with another Mind Flay. Mind Flay, like a DoT, has a tick of damage at the end.
• Keep casting! Don’t spend time looking around or thinking about what to do next instead of acting.
• Don’t wait for a spell to finish casting before starting the next one. Use the spell queue system; start trying to cast the next spell while your previous is still casting. Just mash the hotkey for the next spell toward the end of the previous spell’s cast. It will be put in the queue to start casting right as the other one is done. (Be careful when using this at the end of Mind Flay.)
Second, examine your stats:
• Are you hit capped with spell hit (446 is the cap for lv 80 non draeni) for what you are attacking?
• Are you running out of mana and having to wand? Are you keeping Vampiric Touch up all the time? Are you using your potions and shadowfiend early enough? Do you have enough DPS for your encounter? Because of VT, your mana regen is largely a function of your DPS.
• Are you focusing on ideal stats? (For example: spell damage / spell hit / spell haste are all much better than spell crit for increasing DPS).
Third, if still having trouble, examine your environment:
• Is your latency bad? Do you have a lot of video lag? Shadow priesting is very unforgiving to those who “play in the red.” Do what you can to reduce it.
• Are you having to shift out of shadow form to heal? That really kills your DPS (and your mana pool). Similarly, are you having to Dispel Magic or Power Word: Shield others a lot?
• Are you threat capped with your current tank, meaning can you continually use your spells without stealing aggro?
Fourth, run some tests:
• Find a mob that you can attack without it attacking back. You want to choose something that doesn’t die (quickly). Dr. Boom (level 68 mob in Netherstorm with over 400k health) or one of the “Servant” mobs in the Blasted Lands (mid-50s in level, have another player kite them away from their stone and tank them and they won’t die, though threat may become an issue). Attack at length to test your longevity, DPS, casting priority, talent spec, etc.
• You can analyze your DPS and longevity using a combat parser mod like Skada Damage Meters or Recount. For better, more in depth information, you can set WoW to save your combat log and can have Wow Web Stats process it (this is your best option) [instructions for Wow Web Stats here]. Things to look for are the uptime of your DoTs (check the DoTs column for the number of ticks, multiply by 3; that number should be close to the number of seconds you were in battle), your average DPS, and your spell hit rate.
First, fix any bad habits:
• Don’t cut of your DoTs when reapplying them.
• Make sure you keep your DoTs up as best your can.
• Don’t cut off the end of Mind Flay with another Mind Flay. Mind Flay, like a DoT, has a tick of damage at the end.
• Keep casting! Don’t spend time looking around or thinking about what to do next instead of acting.
• Don’t wait for a spell to finish casting before starting the next one. Use the spell queue system; start trying to cast the next spell while your previous is still casting. Just mash the hotkey for the next spell toward the end of the previous spell’s cast. It will be put in the queue to start casting right as the other one is done. (Be careful when using this at the end of Mind Flay.)
Second, examine your stats:
• Are you hit capped with spell hit (446 is the cap for lv 80 non draeni) for what you are attacking?
• Are you running out of mana and having to wand? Are you keeping Vampiric Touch up all the time? Are you using your potions and shadowfiend early enough? Do you have enough DPS for your encounter? Because of VT, your mana regen is largely a function of your DPS.
• Are you focusing on ideal stats? (For example: spell damage / spell hit / spell haste are all much better than spell crit for increasing DPS).
Third, if still having trouble, examine your environment:
• Is your latency bad? Do you have a lot of video lag? Shadow priesting is very unforgiving to those who “play in the red.” Do what you can to reduce it.
• Are you having to shift out of shadow form to heal? That really kills your DPS (and your mana pool). Similarly, are you having to Dispel Magic or Power Word: Shield others a lot?
• Are you threat capped with your current tank, meaning can you continually use your spells without stealing aggro?
Fourth, run some tests:
• Find a mob that you can attack without it attacking back. You want to choose something that doesn’t die (quickly). Dr. Boom (level 68 mob in Netherstorm with over 400k health) or one of the “Servant” mobs in the Blasted Lands (mid-50s in level, have another player kite them away from their stone and tank them and they won’t die, though threat may become an issue). Attack at length to test your longevity, DPS, casting priority, talent spec, etc.
• You can analyze your DPS and longevity using a combat parser mod like Skada Damage Meters or Recount. For better, more in depth information, you can set WoW to save your combat log and can have Wow Web Stats process it (this is your best option) [instructions for Wow Web Stats here]. Things to look for are the uptime of your DoTs (check the DoTs column for the number of ticks, multiply by 3; that number should be close to the number of seconds you were in battle), your average DPS, and your spell hit rate.
Advanced Tactics
Despite what was just stated above, there may be times when you might want to cut off Mind Flay early on purpose. If your DPS is high enough, mana should not be too much of an issue with you, so you can afford to possibly spend the mana cost of Mind Flay but only use one or two of its ticks.
You would want to do this when a DoT ends or a spell comes off cooldown while you are in the middle of Mind Flay. You would make the conscious decision to forgo the last part(s) of Mind Flay’s damage in exchange for something “better.” This becomes more of a concern when you start to accumulate gear with spell haste and your spell casts in between DoT applications become a bit irregular. Again, you would only want to do this if you are in a place where mana efficiency isn’t much of a concern for you.
The trick is, you have to cut it off right after it ticks for damage! If you cut it off too soon or too late, you would be effectively losing DPS. Mind Flay lasts for 3 seconds and it ticks at the end of every second that it is channeled, but if you have spell haste you have to recalculate and figure out how long you Mind Flays are lasting to find the ticks (1/3 the casting time, 2/3 the casting time, and at the end of the channel).
The easiest way to do this is to install a casting bar add-on that clearly shows you the spell’s intended length and how many seconds into the cast you are, and can account for your latency. Quartz does this very well. Use a “/stopcasting” macro bound to a hotkey to cut the spell off. You have to be ready with the next spell right away, or use it as a part of the /stopcasting macro.
Example:
/stopcasting
/cast Shadow Word: Pain
Mind Flay clipping is a difficult skill to master, especially at high latency. It takes a lot of practice to really get this down. Luckily there is an add-on out there to help out in the form of MFClip, which shows you when your DoTs will tick and alot more items beneficial to spreading the power of the Shadows.
… but what about holy DPS?
As previously stated, speccing at least 31 points into the shadow tree is the way to go for great DPS and utility as a priest in raiding. People have tried holy/disc DPS builds, and have had mixed success. If you wanted to try it, you would probably want to go with some variant of an updated old 43/28/0 build which hasn’t been quite worked out yet but will be posted as soon as a decent Hybrid raider build crops up. I’ve left the old information here in the meantime in case you are feel adventrous and want to try to apply it to figuring out the Holy DPS raider puzzle.
For optimal sustainability and success, you would want to be put into a group with a retribution paladin, a balance druid, an elemental shaman, and one or more shadow priests. Group choice can really make a difference for you.
The utility you provide is poor in comparison to that of a shadow priest. You have the potential to provide Improved Divine Spirit and Improved Fortitude if no one else has it, possibly Power Infusion, and the ability to heal without switching form. However, a shadow priest can spit back mana and health to their party while being competitive on a damage meter and not ever breaking a sweat.
The #1 reason why holy DPS isn’t seen is mana efficiency. As a shadow priest, you are a mana-regenerating machine. As a holy priest, well, you sure do burn through that mana pool quickly. You are the mana suck. :) You just don’t have the longevity or efficiency that a shadow priest does.
Spell Choice
DPSing as a holy priest? Yawn.
Your casting sequence: Smite -> Smite -> Smite -> Smite … etc.
Shadow Word: Pain and Mind Blast are too high in mana cost and will run you out of mana quickly. Holy Fire, while more mana efficient, will not do the damage you need. The best optimization of damage and mana for holy DPS is Smite. Smite is also affected by certain talents (such as Surge of Light) making it a good choice.
Downranking is your crutch on long fights. You may have to use rank 9 of Smite instead of rank 10 if you are having mana issues. You will be able to do more sustained damage that way.
Starting DPS
Open with Holy Fire. Then proceed to start smiting.
Gearing
Spell hit is a major concern; you can only get 4% from talents. You’ll rely on spell crit for mana efficiency (from Surge of Light). Also, if you are looking for +holy damage items in the game, there are only two.
Be Prepared
… to be laughed at. People laugh at the unexpected, and a priest doing holy damage is sure to catch them off guard.
However, if you can competitively pull it off, you will sure be turning some heads, embarrassing some lazy DPSers, and making yourself a legend in your own right.
Despite what was just stated above, there may be times when you might want to cut off Mind Flay early on purpose. If your DPS is high enough, mana should not be too much of an issue with you, so you can afford to possibly spend the mana cost of Mind Flay but only use one or two of its ticks.
You would want to do this when a DoT ends or a spell comes off cooldown while you are in the middle of Mind Flay. You would make the conscious decision to forgo the last part(s) of Mind Flay’s damage in exchange for something “better.” This becomes more of a concern when you start to accumulate gear with spell haste and your spell casts in between DoT applications become a bit irregular. Again, you would only want to do this if you are in a place where mana efficiency isn’t much of a concern for you.
The trick is, you have to cut it off right after it ticks for damage! If you cut it off too soon or too late, you would be effectively losing DPS. Mind Flay lasts for 3 seconds and it ticks at the end of every second that it is channeled, but if you have spell haste you have to recalculate and figure out how long you Mind Flays are lasting to find the ticks (1/3 the casting time, 2/3 the casting time, and at the end of the channel).
The easiest way to do this is to install a casting bar add-on that clearly shows you the spell’s intended length and how many seconds into the cast you are, and can account for your latency. Quartz does this very well. Use a “/stopcasting” macro bound to a hotkey to cut the spell off. You have to be ready with the next spell right away, or use it as a part of the /stopcasting macro.
Example:
/stopcasting
/cast Shadow Word: Pain
Mind Flay clipping is a difficult skill to master, especially at high latency. It takes a lot of practice to really get this down. Luckily there is an add-on out there to help out in the form of MFClip, which shows you when your DoTs will tick and alot more items beneficial to spreading the power of the Shadows.
… but what about holy DPS?
As previously stated, speccing at least 31 points into the shadow tree is the way to go for great DPS and utility as a priest in raiding. People have tried holy/disc DPS builds, and have had mixed success. If you wanted to try it, you would probably want to go with some variant of an updated old 43/28/0 build which hasn’t been quite worked out yet but will be posted as soon as a decent Hybrid raider build crops up. I’ve left the old information here in the meantime in case you are feel adventrous and want to try to apply it to figuring out the Holy DPS raider puzzle.
For optimal sustainability and success, you would want to be put into a group with a retribution paladin, a balance druid, an elemental shaman, and one or more shadow priests. Group choice can really make a difference for you.
The utility you provide is poor in comparison to that of a shadow priest. You have the potential to provide Improved Divine Spirit and Improved Fortitude if no one else has it, possibly Power Infusion, and the ability to heal without switching form. However, a shadow priest can spit back mana and health to their party while being competitive on a damage meter and not ever breaking a sweat.
The #1 reason why holy DPS isn’t seen is mana efficiency. As a shadow priest, you are a mana-regenerating machine. As a holy priest, well, you sure do burn through that mana pool quickly. You are the mana suck. :) You just don’t have the longevity or efficiency that a shadow priest does.
Spell Choice
DPSing as a holy priest? Yawn.
Your casting sequence: Smite -> Smite -> Smite -> Smite … etc.
Shadow Word: Pain and Mind Blast are too high in mana cost and will run you out of mana quickly. Holy Fire, while more mana efficient, will not do the damage you need. The best optimization of damage and mana for holy DPS is Smite. Smite is also affected by certain talents (such as Surge of Light) making it a good choice.
Downranking is your crutch on long fights. You may have to use rank 9 of Smite instead of rank 10 if you are having mana issues. You will be able to do more sustained damage that way.
Starting DPS
Open with Holy Fire. Then proceed to start smiting.
Gearing
Spell hit is a major concern; you can only get 4% from talents. You’ll rely on spell crit for mana efficiency (from Surge of Light). Also, if you are looking for +holy damage items in the game, there are only two.
Be Prepared
… to be laughed at. People laugh at the unexpected, and a priest doing holy damage is sure to catch them off guard.
However, if you can competitively pull it off, you will sure be turning some heads, embarrassing some lazy DPSers, and making yourself a legend in your own right.
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